The Fallen Lords :: time for a new laptop, any sugestions?

Hideki · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject:

more choice of app is cool, when they all work. do you think u feel good looking at all the girls in school or just some on magazine? just coz there's many doesnt mean, u feel happier.

its about linux too, 100 different distros... wow, amazing, but u really need 10 or so, that is worth counting. (here's a list of distro with ranks on the right side part of the page) why do we need them? no we really dont.

i thought u said high performace as in cost ratio to its ability... if u simply mean high performance as in specification, then i'd say mac is just wrong here. suddenly when it comes to high spec mac's, prices double, no one sane would get one... unless they really need one.

so, no, u want a win machine for real high performing machine. u should keep the money for ur gf instead of getting mac pro.

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[TFL]Temmu · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:57 am Post subject:

dude what do you mean hw2 wont work on different versions of windows.... mine works quite well with my vista and or ME on an older computer that i have.... so it does not matter... because any program you have will work on vista just not as well as it did on xp without a patch... hw2 is one that works just as well with no hitches.... i cannot debate over a forum about which is better... each have there pros and cons... macs are nice but pcs have the capability to tweak and upgraded which is key to any high end performance user... sure mac have those but what happens if someone wants to put in a better processor/ mobo... or how about another hard drive for more room... cant do that with a new mac...

and asus has a very good customer service rep... they are very quick and thorough... havent had a problem with my laptop... strong as a rock and much much cheaper compared to any other companies out there... this laptop cost me 1800$ while on dell a laptop with the same config cost 3500$.... cant do much better then that i must say

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Hideki · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:31 am Post subject:

yeah, i was referreing to this it souds solved, but on the other end, it doesnt sound so... so, i guess u're the lucky one.

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[TFL]BigBANGtheory · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:57 am Post subject:

macs are a bad choice for gamers, and therefore a bad choice for Bacon until such time as DirectX is effieciently emulated by linux which isn't likely tp happen anytime soon.

OpenGL (the alternative to DirectX) based games can potentionally run on any system, but there is no way to guarentee future titles will use OpenGL infact the odds are against it unless its coming from id software (Doom, Quake boyz).

You can of course run the Windows OS as a virtualised guest OS on top of a mac OS as its basically Linux at its core. Then run specific applications in the virtual guest....however there are bound to be performance penalties for doing so.

macs have their place and their market share, the top and bottom end of the price & performance scale is dominated by PC quite simply because more research and development is invested there cos thats where most of the money lies and thats where most product developments are first released.

The same is true of the PC following mainframe technology (with the exception of graphics), most of the recent PC advances have been around for years in Enterprise computing things like clustering, multi-core processing, extended memory management, virtualisation is like 10 - 20 yrs old in mainframe terms.

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Hideki · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:40 am Post subject:

mac isnt linux...
it has derived from freebsd which is a unix, but not linux.

i dont care about linux desktop, its ages away from win/mac. people who only use english might find it half usable, but for others its just a plain toy.

and u can run windows as a native os on mac with dual boot which would minimalize performance/compatibility issues, but talking about this point is nonsense as, like everyone already pointed out, if u want a game laptop, go get a windows laptop.

everyone says the price/performance is owned by win machines, but have u really checked the price and spec of both sides? i was surprised when recent macs just brought real competitive hardware to already grown up pc hardware industry.

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[TFL]BigBANGtheory · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject:

technically ur right but as far as 99% of users are concerned unix = linux

unless you are an employee of SCO, HP or Sun

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[TFL]Temmu · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject:

lol bbt... i am running vista home premium and i got hw2 working fine and dandy... dont know what they are talking about.... and i would still say for bacon an asus would be great since they are not over priced and still are a very high quality comp... love mine =)

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DolphinTFL · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:33 am Post subject:

i have 2 dual-core laptops that i can always get my hands on. and im telling they are junk when it comes to gaming. unless that crappy Vista has something to do with it. but since is not my laptop im not erasing Vista from it. if i get a dual-core it'll probably be for my 3d lessons. and thats all.

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/201972/Chess-Game-avi.html 59 sec 800x600

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/203765/hourglass-avi.html 3 sec 1152x864.

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[TFL]Temmu · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject:

well gaming also has to do with memory... my dual core processor is always cranking and i have windows vista... i am also running multiple apps at once... its really effective... i have a monitor running... soooo its a good thing to have... mayb you just need some more memory =)

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[TFL]BigBANGtheory · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:44 am Post subject:

Check this baby out Rock X770-T7500:

Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2GHz,4MB Cache, 800MHz
New Nvidia GeForce 8700M GT 512MB (DX10)
WSXGA+ X-Glass rock logo
2GB DDR2 667MHz RAM
100GB 7200rpm S-ATA
Windows Vista Home Premium

yours for £1400 incl. VAT

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[TFL]Temmu · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:40 am Post subject:

thats a sick laptop for the price.... really high end.. bacon thats for you bud!

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[TFL]BigBANGtheory · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject:

There is an interesting article here about how a Toshiba Laptop with the NV 8700M GPU performs playing CoH in DirectX9 vs. DirectX10

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3085&p=7

Basically they say dont bother running in DX10, which suggests that maybe you should remove DX10 from your purchasing descision on the grounds that the NV 8700M cant run DX10 games properly today let alone in a year from now.

To be fair I dont run CoH in DX10 mode either on my NV 8800 GTX KO pc mainly cos there are too many graphical glitches.

So I would say given the expense for a DX10 enabled laptop it aint worth the money.

The day someone makes a modular CPU & GPU upgrade for a laptop is the birthday of the 1st gaming laptop for the mass market.

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Hideki · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:33 am Post subject:

i wish someone comes up with external gpu box...
there's already a few, but doubt it's that good. problem being, there's nothing that can transfer the data at the speed of a gpu bus as an external link.

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[TFL]BigBANGtheory · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject:

I got a new laptop from work today, GPU chipset isnt up to much but I have to say the new Centrino 2 (a dual core at 2.4GHz in my case) is stonkingly fast.

Anyone considering pairing something like a 9800M GPU with a Centrino2 is likely to get a gaming laptop that would beat out even a reasonably spec'd desktop from last year.

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[TFL]Tank0 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject:

oi BBT i am planning to buy this notebook , but in the years i have learned to respect your insight . You think i can keep gaming on this for the next 2-3 years ?

ASUS M70VN-7S001C
Core2 duo P8400
17“ color shine
RAM : 4 GB
HD 640 GB 5400 rpm
GFX: Nvidia 9650 with 1GBDDR
Wlan: 802.11 B/g + BT
DVD: DVDRW DL
Vista Premium
1350 €

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